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cash versus tournaments

so i cashed out a lot of my money on cake to start a new account on full tilt (which i haven't done yet since the money *just* got into my account), but i left $500 to essentially play the $10k guarantee bounty tourney that i play consistently.

the first few times i played in it i got hit with some rough rough beats, but the past three nights i've placed in the money, fighting as a short stack most of the time. Two nights ago i placed 13th, last night i placed 45th, tonight i placed 25th.

something i have to begrudgingly admit is that i'm a much better tournament player than a cash player, at least at hold 'em. I don't want that to be the case because i feel like cash play is more profitable in the long run and reaps better rewards, but there's a subtle difference in play between cash and tournament, and there's a certain kind of mentality i think i have in tournaments that i should apply in cash games and i simply don't.

i'm not sure what that means; wheni start up my account on full tilt in the coming week, i'm going to start by playing more cash than tournamnets so i can clear the bonus that i think i still earn even though i'll be getting rakeback, but after i clear that, i may have to reevaluate where i emphasize my play, or at the very least try hard to discipline myself to apply the sort of proper aggression i have when i play in tournaments.

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dyaus7
Jun. 17th, 2009 06:52 am (UTC)
tournament variance is fail.
lifeofmendel
Jun. 17th, 2009 06:54 am (UTC)
yeah, i know. it's better the more people that are in it, but it's just a rough way to try to make the cash.

we'll see. i'm going to make a conscious effort to try to take some of my tournament aggression and put it to the cash table without going too crazy. we'll see.
dyaus7
Jun. 17th, 2009 06:55 am (UTC)
just don't go shoving over 4bets because you have 55 ;)
lifeofmendel
Jun. 17th, 2009 06:59 am (UTC)
hah.

the biggest problem i have in cash is that i play preflop too passively. i need to widen and disguise my raising hands more, even if it means giving up after the flop.

with pocket pairs i tend to limp with the hope of trapping, but i think if i start doing even small raises with pockets, it will give me more folding equity and bigger pots when i hit it big. i just have to be careful as it relates to my stack and also not become too predictable.

we'll see the next time i play live.

besides. 55 is a good hand. i'll definitely call a raise and reraise with that, right? :D
dyaus7
Jun. 17th, 2009 07:03 am (UTC)
never ever ever undervalue your folding equity. under normal circumstances, I'm raising every pocket pair from every position if there's no limpers and I'm liking it pretty well.

depending on the stakes and the player, you can cbet many flops and take it down a huge percentage of the time when you miss. and when you hit, you're going to have a tough time getting someone to stack off in an unraised pot.

what stakes you playing?
lifeofmendel
Jun. 17th, 2009 07:14 am (UTC)
online before i stopped playing on cake i was playing mostly .5/1 and the occasional 1/2. when i play at the casino in live games i play 1/2.

and yeah, right now with a lot of the regulars at harrah's i have good folding equity overall because most of them give me a very tight image. i discovered fairly recently that i'm a decent postflop deep stack player live (not as much online) so i think it's probably good practice for me to take more initiative where i normally take a more passive role. even if i project my aggression by raising less with smaller pairs and more with premium hands, i think it will help my game. i just need to make the decision to plunge into that sort of style change and analyze properly what happens after that in relation to the odds and my stack and all that.

but yeah, continuation bets in live games have done me pretty well, and even double firing with a missed AK on the turn has done okay against people who know me well enough to believe i bluff not so often. i just have to be more careful against the LP players in those instances, but i'm a good judge of that live. i just need to trust myself more.
lifeofmendel
Jun. 17th, 2009 07:14 am (UTC)
now go triple star Structure and Fire. :D
dyaus7
Jun. 17th, 2009 07:19 am (UTC)
ewwwwwwwwww

structure ok

fire you would have to offer large financial incentives
lifeofmendel
Jun. 17th, 2009 07:22 am (UTC)
fine fine.

structure, host, and earth.
licyeus
Jun. 17th, 2009 08:18 am (UTC)
What times do you think you'll be playing on FTP?
lifeofmendel
Jun. 17th, 2009 08:20 am (UTC)
not sure yet. if there's a juicy bounty money guaranteed tourney for me to play at the same time as some cash tables, it may revolve around that. what times do you typically play?
licyeus
Jun. 18th, 2009 06:43 am (UTC)
I should also ask: what's your screen name?
lifeofmendel
Jun. 18th, 2009 06:46 am (UTC)
i'll let you know when i set it up. haven't set it up yet. :)
specter_13
Jun. 17th, 2009 07:41 pm (UTC)
I miss playing poker with friends
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